Here, people think out loud—about the body, posture, movement, and life itself.
In this podcast series, “Thinking Out Loud,” Benita Cantieni, 75, the creator of CANTIENICA® body in evolution, speaks with people who live by her method, teach it, and integrate it into their work.
28 inspiring conversations with therapists, trainers, and experts show how working with the body can transform posture, voice, movement—indeed, one’s entire life.
Benita guides every conversation with empathy, humor, and curiosity. She asks about experiences, insights, and ways in which the CANTIENICA® method promotes body awareness, healing, and expressiveness.
“Thinking Out Loud” is a podcast designed to foster greater body awareness, self-awareness, poise, and presence, and to promote unity between body, mind, and mood.
These podcasts are meant to help you get to know yourself a little better. Enjoy!
28 guests. 28 perspectives. One philosophy.
Rita Oberholzer
Form is something external. Shape goes deeper.
Rita Oberholzer continues to work past retirement age—as a sculptor and CANTIENICA® instructor. In both of these pursuits, she seeks form. Precisely. Clear. Without frills. In bodywork and in art—in stone, marble, or even people. Rita doesn’t force anything into a form; she reveals what is already there.
Larene Thomson
From Bonsai to Sequoia
As a child, Larene Thomson learned to keep a low profile. Not to stand out. To hold back. Today, she helps people rise above themselves. A native of Canada, health coach, and long-time CANTIENICA® trainer, she knows from personal experience what it feels like to make herself small. And she knows just how much strength lies in rediscovering one’s own greatness. She speaks with Benita Cantieni about posture—which, for her, is much more than just physical training. Just as posture can transform a bonsai into a sequoia.
Jennifer Eggert
How Standing Tall Gives You the Courage to Follow Your Own Path
The world trip had been planned, and the date was set. Then the COVID-19 pandemic struck and threw a wrench in their plans. So Jennifer set off on her journey with her husband, without any financial cushion—but with CANTIENICA® Körper in Evolution as her virtual studio in tow. Today, she lives and works remotely, moving between Germany, Turkey, Asia, and the Caribbean—and the online studio is always with her.
Andrea Tittes
Strength is more than just muscle mass
Andrea Tittes is a CANTIENICA® Master Teacher. And she loves strength. She always has. She used to need that strength for extreme sports; “now I need it to do wild things with my grandchildren.” “Tittes strength” isn’t the kind of gym-based strength that just puffs up the superficial muscles. “Tittes strength” is developed according to the CANTIENICA® principles, originating from the bones and deep muscles. This ensures that the strength is healthy for the body—and visibly shapely.
Manuela Bucher
It’s less about doing something and more about letting it happen
Manuela Bucher loves the mountains. She loves the presence and clarity that the mountains demand of her—and the inner peace she finds as a result. As a yoga teacher, CANTIENICA® instructor, and “nervous system work guide,” she explores the question of what truly gives people a sense of security: Security resides in the body. In a conversation with Benita Cantieni, Manuela describes how body awareness, posture, breathing, and diagonal stability carry us to the summits—and through life.
Mandy Haase
Taking good care of others starts with yourself.
Mandy Haase is someone who gives. And gives. And gives… A single mother who built her own CANTIENICA® studio during difficult times, with a mother suffering from dementia and a romantic relationship in the works—Mandy Haase had to claim for herself what she had been teaching others as a physical therapist for many years: “Self-care is not a luxury, but a prerequisite for being there for others.” In this blog post, Mandy talks about self-efficacy, letting go of pressure, and the strength to not forget about herself.
Sophie Goethe
Understanding the Body’s Architecture
Sophie Goethe is an architect, mother of three, and CANTIENICA® instructor. To her, houses and people have a surprising amount in common: Both need supporting structures, functional axes, and a smart distribution of loads. While searching for a solution to her own back pain, she discovered the CANTIENICA® method. What fascinated her was that the principles of architecture could be directly applied to the human body. In the podcast, Sophie explains why she views the body as an intelligent structure and why sustainable change always begins from within.
Kirsten Bauer
What does the tongue actually do all day?
This question led Kirsten Bauer of Körperintelligenz to the wisdom of the teeth. As a CANTIENICA® instructor and Dentosophy guide, she experiences firsthand every day how closely breathing, swallowing, chewing, and posture are interconnected. The deeper she delved into the world of the tongue, the clearer it became to her: Without proper alignment, dental wisdom cannot function either. And without a “wise” tongue, the body lacks an important ally. In conversation with Benita Cantieni, Kirsten connects two systems that fit together remarkably well: Body Intelligence and Dental Wisdom.
Pia von Nell
Love at Second Glance
“What am I supposed to do?” Pia von Nell discovered the CANTIENICA® method through postpartum recovery—and at first didn’t understand what her instructor wanted her to do. She couldn’t feel her pelvic floor. But she stuck with it, and today she’s an instructor herself. And she knows the difference between superficial muscles and deep muscles, between elite sports and precision work, down to her bones. In a conversation with Benita Cantieni, Pia describes how consistently this insight makes a difference: when sitting, in her everyday life with three children, and when teaching.
Solveig Hoffmann
Human dignity begins with the body
Solveig Hoffmann’s work is characterized by quiet precision and a serene confidence that the body often knows more than we realize. For many years, she has been supporting people through life crises, physical exhaustion, and periods of reorientation. Her work combines medical experience with keen observation, movement, conversation, and a deep respect for the body’s innate intelligence.
At the heart of her approach is the idea of enabling: “What happens when a person is able to stand tall again—both physically and emotionally?”
Susanne Berendes
How Pelvic Floor Exercises Can Also Change the Way You Play the Violin
The story has become a classic: A young mother is looking for a workout that will help her recover after childbirth. She finds it, and she discovers how the workout affects her violin playing. The young mother is, in fact, a professional violinist and music educator. Susanne Berendes realizes that she had simply accepted physical pain, just like most of her colleagues—as if pain were an inevitable part of being a musician. She works tirelessly to show musicians how suffering can be replaced with ease.
Paula Camenisch
CANTIENICA® is the universal key to everything
Benita Cantieni was about to Paula Camenisch to ask if she was still using the CANTIENICA® method. That’s exactly when Paula mentioned the the liberating phrase: “Cantienica is, after all, the universal key to every body and every form of bodywork.” Paula works with this universal key every day as a pharmacist, homeopath and a CANTIENICA® instructor. And above all, as someone who is curious about the body – fActing, singing, therapy, Chinese movement—she always has the universal key with her. Also always with her: her perspective as a scientist.
Aline Du Pasquier
Musicality begins in the pelvic floor
Singing from the pelvic floor? Aline demonstrates this in the podcast, and the effect on the soprano’s voice is astonishing. So it makes sense that Aline starts her students with bodywork. The body is tuned like an instrument so that it becomes a resonating space. With this self-aware instrument, anyone can sing. Really? Is that true? Does good bodywork also break down the shame that keeps many people from singing? Where does this shame come from in the first place?
Conny Wassermann
With the right foundation, the body dances—agelessly
Cornelia Conny Wassermann loves movement; she loves to dance. After giving birth twice, incontinence stood in the way of this passion. Conny could have sought refuge in the diapers that are so trivialized in advertisements. Instead, Conny set out to find a solution—one that at first contradicted all her beliefs but then worked so quickly. Conny is dancing again, more intensely than ever. She surfs. She camps. And she shares her knowledge as a master teacher and trainer of the method that has made all the difference in her life.
Karin Altpeter-Weiss
Those who understand their own bodies have confidence in their bodies, and that confidence grows within them
In this conversation, Benita Cantieni and Karin Altpeter-Weiss reflect on the significance of the CANTIENICA® method for women and midwives. They discuss self-empowerment and body awareness during pregnancy, childbirth, and beyond. Karin shares her experiences as a midwife in supporting women in finding their strength.
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Bettina Kubli
“I used to be shy; I had stage fright. Those days are gone.”
Shyness? Stage fright? Bettina Kubli? This master of motivation? This woman who manages to present CANTIENICA® in a way that’s funny, cheeky, and cheerful—despite its seriousness? Well, this podcast offers a glimpse of that shyness. Bettina Kubli—Master Teacher, trainer, course instructor in Apulia, and owner of an olive grove in southern Italy—explains how she became who she is today.
Nicole Looser
Confronting Fear with Strength
It’s about trust rather than control, strength without sore muscles, endurance while hiking, stability in everyday life, and the ability to quickly regain balance after physical strain or awkward movements. A conversation about the joy of movement, inner security, and a body that knows how to protect itself.
Andrea Tresch
The body responds clearly and unambiguously
Is yoga, in and of itself, always good? No. Only good yoga is beneficial. Andrea Tresch teaches yoga with precision and a personal touch. She shows her clients how to make their own bodies their best partners for a good workout—and how to listen to them. The body knows when it feels right to stay in a position—and when it’s time to change it.
Nicola Härle
Elite Sports and Pelvic Floor Weakness
A ski racer competing in the European and World Cups has two children and realizes: physical strength doesn’t automatically mean inner strength. Traditional postpartum recovery doesn’t help. By chance, Nicola comes across a book: *TIGERFEELING* by Benita Cantieni. She reads it while standing and senses: This is exactly what she’s been looking for. Her encounter with the “intelligence that comes from the bones” also changes her perspective on competitive sports.
Anke Sedlmaier
Are artificial joints the new status symbol?
Dr. Anke Sedlmeier laughs at the question and explains when surgery is necessary, when she herself prefers therapy, and how she encourages her patients to take more responsibility for the health of their own bodies: movement as a prerequisite for healing and self-healing, for repair and protection.
Eva Augenreich
A Bicycle Accident and Its Consequences
Eva Augenreich suffered a serious fall in which she injured her hip joint and required emergency surgery. Eva describes the shock and helplessness people experience when something like this happens to them. And she vividly describes how she drew strength from the physical fitness she had before the accident—which protected her from worse consequences during the ordeal—and, above all, how she built her new mobility on the foundation of that previous fitness.
Elisabeth Bender-Clausen
The voice is a whole-body phenomenon
Does posture affect the voice? “Yes,” says Elisabeth Bender Clausen, “and your mood, too!” The voice originates from the whole person. Posture is the foundation of sound. The voice changes immediately with a change in posture. A conversation about the voice as a whole-body experience, about self-awareness, and about how expression changes when the body is supported.
Jakob Finkeldei
Do less. Feel more.
How does a young sports scientist come to learn a method that is said to have been created by a sprightly senior citizen for other sprightly senior citizens? Jakob Finkeldei’s answers surprise the interviewer—but not really: The shift from an external focus on performance to an internal focus on quality opens up new dimensions for Jakob—both for himself and for his students.
Karin Mühlemann
Body and Soul—The Perfect Feedback System
What does your posture have to do with mood swings and depression? A lot, says psychotherapist Karin Mühlemann. She describes her own experience with this amazing feedback system and explains how anyone can use it for themselves. Right away. Anywhere. At any time. For Karin, psychotherapy without careful bodywork is no longer conceivable.
Marco Stahel
The Underestimated Power of Precision.
Marco Stahel is a professional dancer. As such, he has mastered the art of lightness and cushioning when his feet touch the ground after a jump. So he was very puzzled when, after a long jog, he began to experience pain in his feet and knees. His mother, who teaches Eutony according to Gerda Alexander, recommended CANTIENICA® training to him. It was a sort of “love at first sight for his bones.” Marco Stahel now teaches the method as a licensed trainer—in a very engaging way.
Alice Schwarzbach
Finding Role Models, Being a Role Model
To age well and with a sense of self-efficacy, people need new perspectives—and new role models. Alice Schwarzbach is a physical therapist and CANTIENICA® instructor. She designs her physical therapy interventions so that patients can develop their own ability to maintain good posture and movement. And she motivates her patients to stay the course and maintain the pain-free state they’ve achieved together through targeted training.
Coming soon …
Anja Clarissa Gilles
From the inside out
Anja Clarissa Gilles calls herself an “alternative physical therapist in the anthroposophical sense”—and under this title, she teaches intensive CANTIENICA® Body in Evolution courses. A musician,
naturopath, and CANTIENICA® instructor, she navigates the seemingly separate worlds of
and finds the common ground: alignment, lightness, spirals, diagonals, and the strength that arises from within. In a podcast with Benita Cantieni, Anja describes how she helps people tap into their inner treasure chest of self-healing.
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Ines Brauch
Strengthening What Is Healthy in People
As an occupational therapist, Ines Brauch spent a long time searching for answers to her own health challenges
. Migraines, Hashimoto’s disease, susceptibility to infections, and exhaustion plagued her for many years. Discovering HPU—a metabolic condition—brought many pieces of the puzzle together. One piece was missing from the puzzle. Ines found it: the CANTIENICA® method as a way to build strength, stability, and self-confidence in her own body.
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